In Episode #25, Ted and Lisa dive into the paradoxical wisdom in the Improv maxim “Be Average.” They start with a chat about the San Francisco production of Hamilton and time they each spent with Moms (1:53) before introducing the subject of the day (6:48). They explore the value of just mucking about and the need to better “understand the stones” (13:43) and then ask in what situations this advice holds true (16:43). Together, they discuss if beginners can be as successful as long-time practitioners (18:32) and Lisa details how she takes specific comfort in the maxim (21:57). As devil’s advocates, they ask if there’s also value in pushing yourself (24:46) and consider why it is that we (or they) want to be excellent (28:46). To close the podcast, they move into the deeper philosophy behind the maxim, reintroducing Hamilton and introducing Buddhist Right Intention, (34:04) and name the next things they’ll each be average about (41:09).
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San Francisco improvisors Ted DesMaisons and Lisa Rowland explore the beautiful, surprising and unruly intersections between mindfulness and improvisation as they seek to befriend that oft-hidden and sometimes scary part of all of us that can lead to a life well-lived.
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